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GOING TO FIND YOURSELVES IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS ONE, IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS ONE, IN AGREEMENT WITH DONALD TRUMP FOR AGREEMENT WITH DONALD TRUMP FOR THIS ONE TIME. THIS ONE TIME. BUT WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE BUT WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE DEATH IN PRISON OF A FORMER DEATH IN PRISON OF A FORMER FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP’S, A MAN FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP’S, A MAN WHO DONALD TRUMP CALLED A WHO DONALD TRUMP CALLED A TERRIFIC GUY, WHO WITH DONALD TERRIFIC GUY, WHO WITH DONALD TRUMP’S FULL APPROVAL LIKED TRUMP’S FULL APPROVAL LIKED GIRLS WHO IN DONALD TRUMP’S GIRLS WHO IN DONALD TRUMP’S WORDS WERE “ON THE YOUNGER WORDS WERE “ON THE YOUNGER SIDE.” SIDE.” IT TOOK THE DEATH OF AN ACCUSED IT TOOK THE DEATH OF AN ACCUSED CHILD RAPIST AND SEX TRAFFICKER CHILD RAPIST AND SEX TRAFFICKER AND FRIEND OF PRESIDENTS TRUMP AND FRIEND OF PRESIDENTS TRUMP AND CLINTON TO UNITE THE AND CLINTON TO UNITE THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE SEARCH FOR INFORMATION FROM SEARCH FOR INFORMATION FROM DONALD TRUMP AND WILLIAM BARR’S DONALD TRUMP AND WILLIAM BARR’S JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. CHAIRMAN JERRY NADLER AND THE CHAIRMAN JERRY NADLER AND THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DOUG COLLINS JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DOUG COLLINS CO-SIGNED A LETTER TONIGHT TO CO-SIGNED A LETTER TONIGHT TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WITH 23 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WITH 23 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEATH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEATH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. JEFFREY EPSTEIN. “FROM AN APPARENT SUICIDE ON THE “FROM AN APPARENT SUICIDE ON THE MORNING OF AUGUST 10th, 2019 MORNING OF AUGUST 10th, 2019 WHILE IN YOUR CUSTODY AT THE WHILE IN YOUR CUSTODY AT THE METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER IN NEW YORK.” IN NEW YORK.” THE LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO HUGH THE LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO HUGH HURWITZ, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF HURWITZ, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS, WHICH IS THE BUREAU OF PRISONS, WHICH IS AN AGENCY IN THE JUSTICE AN AGENCY IN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT UNDER ATTORNEY DEPARTMENT UNDER ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR’S CONTROL. GENERAL WILLIAM BARR’S CONTROL. HUGH HURWITTS IS A LIFETIME HUGH HURWITTS IS A LIFETIME GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT WHOSE GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT WHOSE CAREER BEGAN IN REPUBLICAN CAREER BEGAN IN REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATIONS BUT AS ALSO ADMINISTRATIONS BUT AS ALSO INCLUDED DEMOCRATIC INCLUDED DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS. ADMINISTRATIONS. HE STARTED AS A LOW-LEVEL HE STARTED AS A LOW-LEVEL ASSISTANT IN THE BUREAU OF ASSISTANT IN THE BUREAU OF PRISONS THE YEAR AFTER HE PRISONS THE YEAR AFTER HE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE. GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE. HE EVENTUALLY BECAME A LAWYER, HE EVENTUALLY BECAME A LAWYER, SPENT SOME TIME IN PRIVATE LAW SPENT SOME TIME IN PRIVATE LAW PRACTICE, RURNLD TO THE BURE O. PRACTICE, RURNLD TO THE BURE O. OF PRISONS IN 1997 IN A OF PRISONS IN 1997 IN A TECHNICAL CAPACITY AS AN TECHNICAL CAPACITY AS AN ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION. DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HE WORKED IN A TECHNICAL JOB IN HE WORKED IN A TECHNICAL JOB IN THE FOOD AND DRUG THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, LATER BECAME THE ADMINISTRATION, LATER BECAME THE FDA’S I.T. GUY. FDA’S I.T. GUY. MOVED ON TO ANOTHER TECHNICAL MOVED ON TO ANOTHER TECHNICAL JOB HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH JOB HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DURING THE OBAMA EDUCATION DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HE JOINED NASA ADMINISTRATION HE JOINED NASA AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S OFFICE. OFFICE. AND RETURNED TO THE BUREAU OF AND RETURNED TO THE BUREAU OF PRISONS IN 2015 AS AN ASSISTANT PRISONS IN 2015 AS AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR. MAY 18th OF 2018 ATTORNEY MAY 18th OF 2018 ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS APPOINTED GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS APPOINTED HUGH HURWITZ THE ACTING DIRECTOR HUGH HURWITZ THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS. OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS. AND BECAUSE THIS IS THE TRUMP AND BECAUSE THIS IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HE IS STILL THE ADMINISTRATION HE IS STILL THE ACTING DIRECTOR. ACTING DIRECTOR. OVER A YEAR LATER. OVER A YEAR LATER. WHEN YOU SEE HUGH HURWITZ WHEN YOU SEE HUGH HURWITZ TESTIFY TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY TESTIFY TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE BOTH UNDER OATH AND COMMITTEE BOTH UNDER OATH AND UNDER PRESSURE AS HE MOST SURELY UNDER PRESSURE AS HE MOST SURELY WILL, YOU WILL BE SEEING THE WILL, YOU WILL BE SEEING THE LASSIC GOVERNMENT TECHNOCRAT. LASSIC GOVERNMENT TECHNOCRAT. YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING ANYONE YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING ANYONE WHO HAS EVER RUN A PRISON OR A WHO HAS EVER RUN A PRISON OR A JAIL HIMSELF. JAIL HIMSELF. HE HAS NEVER HAD ONE DAY OF HE HAS NEVER HAD ONE DAY OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A PRISON EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A PRISON OR A JAIL. OR A JAIL. IT IS POSSIBLE HE HAS NEVER MET IT IS POSSIBLE HE HAS NEVER MET AN INMATE. AN INMATE. BUT IT WAS HIS JOB TO KEEP BUT IT WAS HIS JOB TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. IT WAS ALSO WILLIAM BARR’S JOB IT WAS ALSO WILLIAM BARR’S JOB TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR SAID AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR SAID TODAY IN EFFECT DON’T BLAME ME. TODAY IN EFFECT DON’T BLAME ME. ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR CLAIMED TO ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR CLAIMED TO BE “APPALLED AND ANGRY.” BE “APPALLED AND ANGRY.” THOSE WERE HIS WORDS. THOSE WERE HIS WORDS. ABOUT THE DEATH OF JEFFREY ABOUT THE DEATH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT HUGH HURWITZ IS IN LINE TO TAKE HUGH HURWITZ IS IN LINE TO TAKE THE FALL FOR THIS ONE. THE FALL FOR THIS ONE.>>WE ARE NOW LEARNING OF>>WE ARE NOW LEARNING OF SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES AT THIS SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES AT THIS FACILITY THAT ARE DEEPLY FACILITY THAT ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING AND DEMAND A THOROUGH CONCERNING AND DEMAND A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION.>>SO WILLIAM BARR IS CLEARLY>>SO WILLIAM BARR IS CLEARLY GOING POINT DOWNWARD AND BLAME GOING POINT DOWNWARD AND BLAME HUGH HURWITZ OR SOMEONE LOWER HUGH HURWITZ OR SOMEONE LOWER DOWN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AT THE DOWN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AT THE FEDERAL CORRECTION CENTER IN NEW FEDERAL CORRECTION CENTER IN NEW YORK WHERE JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED. YORK WHERE JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED. MAYBE THE BARR INVESTIGATION MAYBE THE BARR INVESTIGATION WILL ULTIMATELY POINT THE FINGER WILL ULTIMATELY POINT THE FINGER AT THE UNIONIZED GUARDS WHO AT THE UNIONIZED GUARDS WHO FAILED TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN FAILED TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. ALIVE. OR THE CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST OF THE OR THE CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST OF THE CORRECTIONAL CENTER WHO WAS CORRECTIONAL CENTER WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE SUICIDE WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN SUICIDE WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND THE AFTERMATH OF THE SUICIDE AND THE AFTERMATH OF THE SUICIDE WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. AFTER JEFFREY EPSTEIN REPORTEDLY AFTER JEFFREY EPSTEIN REPORTEDLY TRIED TO KILL HIMSELF LAST MONTH TRIED TO KILL HIMSELF LAST MONTH HE WAS PLACED ON SUICIDE WATCH HE WAS PLACED ON SUICIDE WATCH FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN REPORTEDLY TAKEN OFF SUICIDE REPORTEDLY TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS RULES FOR SUICIDE WATCHES WERE RULES FOR SUICIDE WATCHES WERE WRITTEN IN 2007 WHEN HUGH WRITTEN IN 2007 WHEN HUGH HURWITZ WAS WORKING AT THE HURWITZ WAS WORKING AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. IT’S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE HUGH IT’S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE HUGH HURWITZ HAD NO IDEA WHAT THOSE HURWITZ HAD NO IDEA WHAT THOSE RULES WERE UNTIL HE GOT THE RULES WERE UNTIL HE GOT THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER TONIGHT. TONIGHT. ONE OF THE RULES SAYS ONCE AN ONE OF THE RULES SAYS ONCE AN INMATE HAS BEEN PLACED ON WATCH INMATE HAS BEEN PLACED ON WATCH “THE WATCH MAY NOT BE TERMINATED “THE WATCH MAY NOT BE TERMINATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WITHOUT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WITHOUT THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR OR THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR OR DESIGNEE PERFORMING A DESIGNEE PERFORMING A FACE-TO-FACE EVALUATION. FACE-TO-FACE EVALUATION. ONLY THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR ONLY THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE AN INMATE FROM SUICIDE REMOVE AN INMATE FROM SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR IS THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR IS USUALLY THE PRISON’S CHIEF USUALLY THE PRISON’S CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST.” PSYCHOLOGIST.” QUESTION 12 OF THE JUDICIARY QUESTION 12 OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER TO THE BUREAU COMMITTEE’S LETTER TO THE BUREAU OF PRISONSIZE, “DOES MCC NEW OF PRISONSIZE, “DOES MCC NEW YORK HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM YORK HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM COORDINATOR? COORDINATOR? DID HE OR SHE AUTHORIZE THE DID HE OR SHE AUTHORIZE THE REMOVAL OF MR. EPSTEIN FROM REMOVAL OF MR. EPSTEIN FROM SUICIDE WATCH? SUICIDE WATCH? IF NOT WHO DID?” IF NOT WHO DID?” QUESTION 13, DID THE PROGRAM QUESTION 13, DID THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR CONSULT WITH ANYONE COORDINATOR CONSULT WITH ANYONE ELSE IN MAKING THIS ELSE IN MAKING THIS DETERMINATION? DETERMINATION? IF SO, WHO? IF SO, WHO? QUESTION 14. QUESTION 14. “WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. “WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. EMSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH BY OUGHT EMSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH BY OUGHT FISHEL WHO MADE SUCH FISHEL WHO MADE SUCH DETERMINATION DISCUSSED WITH OR DETERMINATION DISCUSSED WITH OR DIRECTED BY ANY SUPERVISORY DIRECTED BY ANY SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL OR LEADERSHIP OF THE PERSONNEL OR LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS OR ANY BUREAU OF PRISONS OR ANY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE BRANCH PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE BRANCH PERSONNEL OUTSIDE OF THE BUREAU OF OUTSIDE OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS?” PRISONS?” QUESTION 15, “WHO AT THE BUREAU QUESTION 15, “WHO AT THE BUREAU OF PRISONS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OF PRISONS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND ELSEWHERE IN THE EXECUTIVE AND ELSEWHERE IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH WAS NOTIFIED OF THE BRANCH WAS NOTIFIED OF THE TERMINATION OF MR. EPSTEIN’S TERMINATION OF MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH AND WHEN?” SUICIDE WATCH AND WHEN?” THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE IS THE THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE IS THE CRAZIEST WHITE HOUSE IN HISTORY. CRAZIEST WHITE HOUSE IN HISTORY. IT IS THE MOST RECKLESS GROUP OF IT IS THE MOST RECKLESS GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER WORKED IN A PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER WORKED IN A WHITE HOUSE. WHITE HOUSE. AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF IS THE AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF IS THE MOST RECKLESS OF THEM ALL. MOST RECKLESS OF THEM ALL. THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER SIGNED BY THE TOP DEMOCRAT AND SIGNED BY THE TOP DEMOCRAT AND THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON THE THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON THE COMMITTEE, IS ASKING IF ANYONE COMMITTEE, IS ASKING IF ANYONE IN THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WAS IN THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WAS INVOLVED OR AWARE OF THE REMOVAL INVOLVED OR AWARE OF THE REMOVAL STEIN. STEIN. THAT’S WHAT’S IN QUESTION NUMBER THAT’S WHAT’S IN QUESTION NUMBER 14. 14. WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH DISCUSSED WITH OR DIRECTED BY DISCUSSED WITH OR DIRECTED BY ANY SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL OR ANY SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL OR LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU OF LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS OR ANY DEPARTMENT OF PRISONS OR ANY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE JUSTICE PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE BRANCH PERSONNEL? BRANCH PERSONNEL? WAS WILLIAM BARR INVOLVED? WAS WILLIAM BARR INVOLVED? WAS DONALD TRUMP INVOLVED? WAS DONALD TRUMP INVOLVED? THAT’S WHAT IS IN QUESTION THAT’S WHAT IS IN QUESTION NUMBER 14. NUMBER 14. AND THE HOUSE JUDICIARY AND THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO GET COMMITTEE IS GOING TO GET ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, TO ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, TO ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS, ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS, INCLUDING PLEASE PROVIDE INCLUDING PLEASE PROVIDE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE INDIVIDUAL CORRECTION OFFICERS INDIVIDUAL CORRECTION OFFICERS WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING MR. EPSTEIN ON AUGUST MONITORING MR. EPSTEIN ON AUGUST 9th AND AUGUST 10th SPECIFICALLY 9th AND AUGUST 10th SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO HOW LONG THEY WITH RESPECT TO HOW LONG THEY HAD BEEN ON THEIR SHIFTS AT THE HAD BEEN ON THEIR SHIFTS AT THE TIME MR. EPSTEIN HAD BEEN FOUND TIME MR. EPSTEIN HAD BEEN FOUND NON-RESPONSIVE IN HIS CELL. NON-RESPONSIVE IN HIS CELL. QUESTION 17, “IF MR. EPSTEIN WAS QUESTION 17, “IF MR. EPSTEIN WAS REMOVED FROM SUICIDE WATCH, WHAT REMOVED FROM SUICIDE WATCH, WHAT PRECAUTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PRECAUTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO HELP PREVENT THE POSSIBILITY OF HELP PREVENT THE POSSIBILITY OF SELF-INJURY FROM MR. EPSTEIN SELF-INJURY FROM MR. EPSTEIN GIVEN THAT HE WAS TRANSITIONING GIVEN THAT HE WAS TRANSITIONING FROM SUICIDE WATCH? FROM SUICIDE WATCH? WERE THERE ANY STEPS TAKEN TO WERE THERE ANY STEPS TAKEN TO REMOVE POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTS OF REMOVE POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTS OF SELF-INJURY?” SELF-INJURY?” QUESTION 20, “WERE ANY VIDEO QUESTION 20, “WERE ANY VIDEO SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS PLACED IN SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS PLACED IN OR NEAR MR. EPSTEIN’S CELL? OR NEAR MR. EPSTEIN’S CELL? DO RECORDINGS SHOW THE DO RECORDINGS SHOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO MR. CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO MR. EPSTEIN’S DEATH OR THE PRESENCE EPSTEIN’S DEATH OR THE PRESENCE OF ANY OTHER PERSON DURING THIS OF ANY OTHER PERSON DURING THIS TIME PERIOD?” TIME PERIOD?” THE BIPARTISAN LETTER SENT BY THE BIPARTISAN LETTER SENT BY THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS SAYS, “THE BUREAU OF PRISONS SAYS, “THE APPARENT SUICIDE OF THIS APPARENT SUICIDE OF THIS HIGH-PROFILE AND IF ALLEGATIONS HIGH-PROFILE AND IF ALLEGATIONS ARE PROVEN TO BE ACCURATE ARE PROVEN TO BE ACCURATE PARTICULARLY REPREHENSIBLE PARTICULARLY REPREHENSIBLE INDIVIDUAL WHILE IN THE FEDERAL INDIVIDUAL WHILE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S CUSTODY GOVERNMENT’S CUSTODY DEMONSTRATES SEVERE MISCARRIAGES DEMONSTRATES SEVERE MISCARRIAGES OF AND DEFICIENCIES IN INMATE OF AND DEFICIENCIES IN INMATE PROTOCOL AND HAS ALLOWED THE PROTOCOL AND HAS ALLOWED THE DECEASED TO ULTIMATELY EVADE DECEASED TO ULTIMATELY EVADE FACING JUSTICE. FACING JUSTICE. ANY VICTIMS OF MR. EPSTEIN’S ANY VICTIMS OF MR. EPSTEIN’S ACTIONS WILL FOREVER BE DENIED ACTIONS WILL FOREVER BE DENIED PROPER RECOURSE. PROPER RECOURSE. THE COMPETENCY AND RIGOR OF OUR THE COMPETENCY AND RIGOR OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS BEEN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS BEEN MARRED BY THIS APPARENT MARRED BY THIS APPARENT OVERSIGHT.” OVERSIGHT.” LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT MIMI ROCAH, FORMER TONIGHT MIMI ROCAH, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY IN THE ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. SHE’S AN MSNBC LEGAL KRIRKT. SHE’S AN MSNBC LEGAL KRIRKT. AND JOHN HEILEMANN, NATIONAL AND JOHN HEILEMANN, NATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST FOR MSNBC NEWS AFFAIRS ANALYST FOR MSNBC NEWS AND MSNBC. AND MSNBC. HE IS CO-HOST AND EXECUTIVE HE IS CO-HOST AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF SHOWTIME’S “THE PRODUCER OF SHOWTIME’S “THE CIRCUS.” CIRCUS.” MIMI, YOU KNOW THESE FACILITIES MIMI, YOU KNOW THESE FACILITIES DOWN THERE IN LOWER MANHATTAN. DOWN THERE IN LOWER MANHATTAN. FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY TWEETED FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY TWEETED OVER THE WEEKEND THAT SURELY OVER THE WEEKEND THAT SURELY THERE IS VIDEO THAT WILL TELL US THERE IS VIDEO THAT WILL TELL US SOMETHING IF NOT EVERYTHING SOMETHING IF NOT EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS.>>THERE WILL BE VIDEO THAT WILL>>THERE WILL BE VIDEO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PUZZLE THAT BE PART OF THE PUZZLE THAT THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO PIECE THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO PIECE TOGETHER. TOGETHER. THERE WON’T BE VIDEO IN THE SELL THERE WON’T BE VIDEO IN THE SELL BECAUSE OF PRIVACY RIGHTS. BECAUSE OF PRIVACY RIGHTS. BUT THERE WILL BE VIDEO FROM THE BUT THERE WILL BE VIDEO FROM THE HALLWAYS. HALLWAYS. IN WILL BE — THERE WILL BE — IN WILL BE — THERE WILL BE — I’M SURE THEY’RE ALREADY I’M SURE THEY’RE ALREADY LOOKING — SOMEBODY IS GOING LOOKING — SOMEBODY IS GOING THROUGH WHATEVER VIDEO CAN BE THROUGH WHATEVER VIDEO CAN BE GONE THROUGH. GONE THROUGH. THEY’RE LOOK AT WHO DID EPSTEIN THEY’RE LOOK AT WHO DID EPSTEIN SPEAK TO. SPEAK TO. WHO DID HE HAVE PHONE CALLS WHO DID HE HAVE PHONE CALLS WITH? WITH? WHO DID HE HAVE CONTACT WITH IN WHO DID HE HAVE CONTACT WITH IN THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN HE WAS THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN HE WAS TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH AND TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH AND KILLED HIMSELF PRESUMABLY? KILLED HIMSELF PRESUMABLY? YOU KNOW, EVERY PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, EVERY PERSONNEL, EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE IS EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE IS GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED AND GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED AND QUESTIONED SEPARATELY AND QUESTIONED SEPARATELY AND CAREFULLY. CAREFULLY. BUT THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IN MY BUT THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IN MY MIND IS WE NEED ANSWERS AND WE MIND IS WE NEED ANSWERS AND WE NEED BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE NEED BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE VICTIMS TO TRUST THE ANSWERS VICTIMS TO TRUST THE ANSWERS THAT WE GET. THAT WE GET. AND WITH BILL BARR AT THE HELM AND WITH BILL BARR AT THE HELM AND DOING WHAT HE’S ALREADY AND DOING WHAT HE’S ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS SPINNING THIS, DOING, WHICH IS SPINNING THIS, LIKE HE DID WITH THE MUELLER LIKE HE DID WITH THE MUELLER REPORT, HOW CAN ANYBODY TRUST REPORT, HOW CAN ANYBODY TRUST IT? IT? HE HAD BEEN RECUSED. HE HAD BEEN RECUSED. HE UNRECUSED HIMSELF TO TAKE HE UNRECUSED HIMSELF TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE SOUTHERN RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT INVESTIGATION. AND NOW HE’S ALREADY DISCLAIMING AND NOW HE’S ALREADY DISCLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY AS YOU SAID. RESPONSIBILITY AS YOU SAID. AND I THINK FOR ANYONE TO HAVE AND I THINK FOR ANYONE TO HAVE FAITH IN WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE, FAITH IN WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE, WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE VICTIMS AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM VICTIMS AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE, BILL BARR MUST AS A WHOLE, BILL BARR MUST RECUSE HIMSELF. RECUSE HIMSELF.>>JOHN, THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED>>JOHN, THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL VIEW OF REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL VIEW OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, HEADS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S THE HEAD OF ESPECIALLY IF IT’S THE HEAD OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEATH OCCURS IN BENGHAZI. DEATH OCCURS IN BENGHAZI. ALL OF THAT WAS BLAMED ON ALL OF THAT WAS BLAMED ON HILLARY CLINTON BY HOUSE HILLARY CLINTON BY HOUSE REPUBLICANS. REPUBLICANS. HERE’S WILLIAM BARR AT THE TOP HERE’S WILLIAM BARR AT THE TOP OF HIS DEPARTMENT. OF HIS DEPARTMENT. BUT THIS LETTER TONIGHT BUT THIS LETTER TONIGHT CO-SIGNED BY THE LEADING CO-SIGNED BY THE LEADING REPUBLICAN ON THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS ASKING JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.>>YES.>>YES. DOES THE WORD HYPOCRISY MEAN DOES THE WORD HYPOCRISY MEAN ANYTHING? ANYTHING? THAT’S NOT A NEW THING FOR THIS THAT’S NOT A NEW THING FOR THIS REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THIS AGE OF REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THIS AGE OF DONALD TRUMP TO CAST ASIDE ALL DONALD TRUMP TO CAST ASIDE ALL PRIOR ALLEGED CONVICTIONS OR PRIOR ALLEGED CONVICTIONS OR COMMITMENTS TO HOW COMMITMENTS TO HOW RESPONSIBILITY WORKS, WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY WORKS, WHERE THE BUCK STOPS IN SITUATIONS LIKE BUCK STOPS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. THIS. I THINK IT’S, YOU KNOW — YOU’VE I THINK IT’S, YOU KNOW — YOU’VE SEEN THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AS SEEN THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AS YOU WATCHED BEFORE THE EPSTEIN YOU WATCHED BEFORE THE EPSTEIN EVENT, YOU KNOW, ON FRIDAY YOU EVENT, YOU KNOW, ON FRIDAY YOU HAD THE NAMES OF SOME PROMINENT HAD THE NAMES OF SOME PROMINENT PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPLICATED IN PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPLICATED IN THE EPSTEIN THING. THE EPSTEIN THING. YOU SAW BILL RICHLDSON’S NAME. YOU SAW BILL RICHLDSON’S NAME. YOU SAW GEORGE MITCHELL’S NAME YOU SAW GEORGE MITCHELL’S NAME COME OUT. COME OUT. YOU SAW DONALD TRUMP’S NAME. YOU SAW DONALD TRUMP’S NAME. AND YOU SAW BILL CLINTON’S NAME. AND YOU SAW BILL CLINTON’S NAME. AND YET OVERT WEEKEND YOU HAVE AND YET OVERT WEEKEND YOU HAVE PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP BASICALLY POINTING TO BILL BASICALLY POINTING TO BILL CLINTON AS THE PRESIDENT STOKED CLINTON AS THE PRESIDENT STOKED THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY BY THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY BY RETWEETING SOMEONE WHO CLAIMED RETWEETING SOMEONE WHO CLAIMED THAT THIS IS PART OF THE CLINTON THAT THIS IS PART OF THE CLINTON BODY COUNT. BODY COUNT. YET IT IS THE CASE THAT BOTH OF YET IT IS THE CASE THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE — WERE KNOWN THEM ARE — WERE KNOWN HISTORICAL CONSORTS OF JEFFREY HISTORICAL CONSORTS OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS EPSTEIN AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHOSE JUSTICE UNITED STATES WHOSE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RUNS THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT RUNS THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM. PRISON SYSTEM. SO I’M NOT ENDPAJING IN ANY SO I’M NOT ENDPAJING IN ANY CONSPIRACY THEORIES JUST TO SAY CONSPIRACY THEORIES JUST TO SAY IF YOU’RE GOING TO START ASKING IF YOU’RE GOING TO START ASKING ABOUT CULPABILITY AND YOU’RE ABOUT CULPABILITY AND YOU’RE GOING TO START POINT FINGERS THE GOING TO START POINT FINGERS THE PLACE TO START LOOKING IS WITH PLACE TO START LOOKING IS WITH THE GOVERNMENT THAT RUNS THAT THE GOVERNMENT THAT RUNS THAT FACILITY. FACILITY. AND THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL, THIS THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL, THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO HAS SHOWN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO HAS SHOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT HE’S IN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT HE’S IN THIS GAME FIRST AND FOREMOST TO THIS GAME FIRST AND FOREMOST TO PROTECT DONALD TRUMP ABOVE ALL. PROTECT DONALD TRUMP ABOVE ALL.>>MIMI, TO GO BACK TO YOUR>>MIMI, TO GO BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE BARR POINT ABOUT THE BARR NON-RECUSAL. NON-RECUSAL. BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATIONS IN BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATIONS IN THE SOUTHERN ZRINGT DO CROSS THE SOUTHERN ZRINGT DO CROSS LINES WITH DONALD TRUMP HERE AND LINES WITH DONALD TRUMP HERE AND THERE AND HERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS THERE AND HERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS A FORMER FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP A FORMER FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP TRUMP’S. TRUMP’S. IRONICALLY, ODDLY, GIVEN HIS IRONICALLY, ODDLY, GIVEN HIS JOB, HIS FIRST JOB IN NEW YORK JOB, HIS FIRST JOB IN NEW YORK AT A PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL IN NEW AT A PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL IN NEW YORK BY WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER, YORK BY WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER, WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER AS THE WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER AS THE HEADMASTER OF SCHOOL ACTUALLY HEADMASTER OF SCHOOL ACTUALLY HIRED THIS GUY, THAT’S PLENTY OF HIRED THIS GUY, THAT’S PLENTY OF GROUNDS RIGHT THERE FOR BARR TO GROUNDS RIGHT THERE FOR BARR TO RECUSE HIMSELF. RECUSE HIMSELF. BUT YOU DIDN’T, AS YOU POINTED BUT YOU DIDN’T, AS YOU POINTED OUT IN THIS CASE. OUT IN THIS CASE. WHICH MEANS HE LEFT HIMSELF IN WHICH MEANS HE LEFT HIMSELF IN CHARGE FULLY OF THE CHARGE FULLY OF THE INCARCERATION OF JEFFREY INCARCERATION OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. WHAT EFFORTS DID HE MAKE TO XLNT WHAT EFFORTS DID HE MAKE TO XLNT IMPORTANCE OF THIS PRISONER? IMPORTANCE OF THIS PRISONER?>>EXACTLY.>>EXACTLY. HE’S NOW SAYING IN HIS STATEMENT HE’S NOW SAYING IN HIS STATEMENT TODAY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TODAY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CASE. CASE. IF IT WERE THAT IMPORTANT OF A IF IT WERE THAT IMPORTANT OF A CASE, A CASE YOU SAID I’M SO CASE, A CASE YOU SAID I’M SO INVESTED IN THIS CASE AND I’M INVESTED IN THIS CASE AND I’M GOING TO PUT ASIDE THOSE MAYBE GOING TO PUT ASIDE THOSE MAYBE APPARENT CONFLICTS THAT PEOPLE APPARENT CONFLICTS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE ISSUE WITH BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE ISSUE WITH BECAUSE I WANT TO OVERSEE, IT I WANT TO WANT TO OVERSEE, IT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT’S DONE RIGHT THIS MAKE SURE IT’S DONE RIGHT THIS TIME AROUND, WELL, THEN YOU TIME AROUND, WELL, THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID FROM THE TOP SHOULD HAVE SAID FROM THE TOP DOWN WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED DOWN WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED TO PROTECT THIS MAN, THE SAME TO PROTECT THIS MAN, THE SAME WAY THEY DID WITH EL CHAPO, WAY THEY DID WITH EL CHAPO, RIGHT? RIGHT? IT’S NOT LIKE THEY AREN’T IT’S NOT LIKE THEY AREN’T CAPABLE OF DOING IT. CAPABLE OF DOING IT. WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED I WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED I WILL GET YOU. WILL GET YOU. I’M NOT SAYING THERE AREN’T I’M NOT SAYING THERE AREN’T SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS ON A SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN THE MCC, DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN THE MCC, OTHER PRISON THAT’S MAYBE WILL OTHER PRISON THAT’S MAYBE WILL COME TO LIGHT AS A RESULT OF COME TO LIGHT AS A RESULT OF THIS AND BE ADDRESSED BUT HE THIS AND BE ADDRESSED BUT HE COULD HAVE REACHED OUT, HE COULD HAVE REACHED OUT, HE SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT, SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HIS POSITION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HIS POSITION, AND SAID I AM GIVING YOU THE AND SAID I AM GIVING YOU THE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE JEFFREY EPSTEIN GOES TO TRIAL JEFFREY EPSTEIN GOES TO TRIAL AND SEES THAT DAY OF TRIAL. AND SEES THAT DAY OF TRIAL.>>AND SO JOHN, AS MIMI SAID IN>>AND SO JOHN, AS MIMI SAID IN HER FIRST STATEMENT TONIGHT, HER FIRST STATEMENT TONIGHT, WILLIAM BARR IS ALREADY SPINNING WILLIAM BARR IS ALREADY SPINNING THIS. THIS. HE GOES OUT THERE TODAY AND GOES HE GOES OUT THERE TODAY AND GOES WAY BEYOND ANYTHING WE KNOW IN WAY BEYOND ANYTHING WE KNOW IN THE NEWS REPORTS AND SAYS THE NEWS REPORTS AND SAYS SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES IN THIS SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES IN THIS FACILITY WHICH HE SUPERVISES, FACILITY WHICH HE SUPERVISES, WHICH IS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION. WHICH IS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION. AND THAT AGAIN IS WILLIAM BARR AND THAT AGAIN IS WILLIAM BARR STEPPING OUT AHEAD OF WHAT WE STEPPING OUT AHEAD OF WHAT WE KNOW BEFORE WE’RE ALLOWED TO KNOW BEFORE WE’RE ALLOWED TO KNOW. KNOW. AND THEN NOT GIVING US ANY HINT AND THEN NOT GIVING US ANY HINT OF WHAT AN IRREGULARITY IS. OF WHAT AN IRREGULARITY IS.>>WE’VE SEEN BILL BARR DO THIS>>WE’VE SEEN BILL BARR DO THIS BEFORE, STEP OUT AHEAD OF BEFORE, STEP OUT AHEAD OF EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND CAST EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND CAST EVENTS IN A CERTAIN WAY. EVENTS IN A CERTAIN WAY. SPIN THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY. SPIN THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY. IT’S PART OF THE TROUBLING IT’S PART OF THE TROUBLING PATTERN I THINK ON THE PART FRT PATTERN I THINK ON THE PART FRT ATTORNEY GENERAL. ATTORNEY GENERAL. AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON’T KNOW WHEN HE SAYS THERE DON’T KNOW WHEN HE SAYS THERE ARE TROUBLING IRREGULARITIES, WE ARE TROUBLING IRREGULARITIES, WE DO NOT KNOW IF HE’S TALKING DO NOT KNOW IF HE’S TALKING HIFSHLTH HIFSHLTH HISTORICALLY. HISTORICALLY. WE DON’T KNOW IF HE’S TROEFRG WE DON’T KNOW IF HE’S TROEFRG THIS CASE. THIS CASE. THERE CLEARLY ARE IRREGULARITIES THERE CLEARLY ARE IRREGULARITIES WITH RESPECT TO THIS CASE. WITH RESPECT TO THIS CASE. THE QUESTION IS IF HE’S CASTING THE QUESTION IS IF HE’S CASTING AN ASPERSION THAT HE’S TRYING TO AN ASPERSION THAT HE’S TRYING TO CLAIM THESE PROBLEMS ARE CLAIM THESE PROBLEMS ARE SYSTEMIC AND HAVE GONE ON FOR SYSTEMIC AND HAVE GONE ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND SO TALTH YEARS AND YEARS AND SO TALTH HAPPENED ON MY WATCH I CAN’T BE HAPPENED ON MY WATCH I CAN’T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEMS THAT RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN FESTERING IN THIS HAVE BEEN FESTERING IN THIS PRISON FOR MANY DECADES. PRISON FOR MANY DECADES. WE’LL SEE IF THAT’S WHERE HE GO WE’LL SEE IF THAT’S WHERE HE GO BUT DON’T BE SURPRISEED IF THAT BUT DON’T BE SURPRISEED IF THAT IS WHERE WE GO. IS WHERE WE GO.>>MIMI, “NEW YORK TIMES”>>MIMI, “NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTING THAT THIS MEANS THAT REPORTING THAT THIS MEANS THAT PROSECUTORS WILL PROBABLY START PROSECUTORS WILL PROBABLY START CONCENTRATING MORE HEAVILY ON CONCENTRATING MORE HEAVILY ON THE FINANCIAL LIFE OF JEFFREY THE FINANCIAL LIFE OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN SINCE THEY CAN’T EPSTEIN SINCE THEY CAN’T PROSECUTE ANY OF THESE CRIMINAL PROSECUTE ANY OF THESE CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST HIM. CASES AGAINST HIM. WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORT IN THE WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORT IN THE “NEW YORK TIMES” TONIGHT FROM “NEW YORK TIMES” TONIGHT FROM JAMES STEWART. JAMES STEWART. HE REPORTS OF AN INTERVIEW HE HE REPORTS OF AN INTERVIEW HE HAD WITH EPSTEIN LAST YEAR WHERE HAD WITH EPSTEIN LAST YEAR WHERE EPSTEIN POINTS TO A PICTURE EPSTEIN POINTS TO A PICTURE SAYING THAT’S MBS, REFERRING TO SAYING THAT’S MBS, REFERRING TO MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, THE CROWN MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, THE CROWN PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA. PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA. THE CROWN PRINCE HAD VISITED HIM THE CROWN PRINCE HAD VISITED HIM MANY TIMES AND THEY SPOKE OFTEN, MANY TIMES AND THEY SPOKE OFTEN, MR. EPSTEIN SAID. MR. EPSTEIN SAID. MIMI, IF THAT’S TRUE, THAT’S MIMI, IF THAT’S TRUE, THAT’S JUST ONE INDICATOR OF THE KINDS JUST ONE INDICATOR OF THE KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE EXPOSED IN OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE EXPOSED IN THE CONTINUING OF THIS THE CONTINUING OF THIS INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. LOOK, THE FACT THAT JOFFREY LOOK, THE FACT THAT JOFFREY BERMAN PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON BERMAN PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON SATURDAY, THAT’S UNUSUAL FOR SATURDAY, THAT’S UNUSUAL FOR THEM TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT AT THEM TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT AT ALL ABOUT A CASE SO QUICKLY OVER ALL ABOUT A CASE SO QUICKLY OVER A WEEKEND, AND THE FACT THAT HE A WEEKEND, AND THE FACT THAT HE MADE THAT POINT ABOUT THERE MADE THAT POINT ABOUT THERE BEING A CONSPIRACY AND WE’RE BEING A CONSPIRACY AND WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE INVESTIGATING GOING TO CONTINUE INVESTIGATING AND WE WANT VICTIMS TO COME AND WE WANT VICTIMS TO COME FORWARD, I DON’T THINK HE WOULD FORWARD, I DON’T THINK HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IF THERE WERE HAVE DONE THAT IF THERE WERE JUST SORT OF LET’S THROW IT UP JUST SORT OF LET’S THROW IT UP AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THAT WOULD BE PRETTY RISKY ON THAT WOULD BE PRETTY RISKY ON HIS PART. HIS PART. THEY CLEARLY HAVE ALREADY I THEY CLEARLY HAVE ALREADY I THINK SOME IDEA WHERE THIS IS THINK SOME IDEA WHERE THIS IS GOING IN TERMS OF GOING IN TERMS OF CO-CONSPIRATORS. CO-CONSPIRATORS. WHETHER THAT TURNS OUT TO BE WHETHER THAT TURNS OUT TO BE GHISLAINE — I CAN’T PRONOUNCE GHISLAINE — I CAN’T PRONOUNCE HER NAME. HER NAME. MAXWELL MAXWELL MAXWELL MAXWELL MAXWELL. MAXWELL. AND OTHER MORE HIGH-PROFILE AND OTHER MORE HIGH-PROFILE PEOPLE I DON’T KNOW. PEOPLE I DON’T KNOW. BUT THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP BUT THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP PURSUING THIS I THINK CRIMINALLY PURSUING THIS I THINK CRIMINALLY AND CIVILLY IN TERMS OF AND CIVILLY IN TERMS OF FORFEITURE OF HIS ASSETS. FORFEITURE OF HIS ASSETS.>>THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAID TO>>THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAID TO MIMI’S POINT ON SATURDAY O’”TO MIMI’S POINT ON SATURDAY O’”TO THOSE BRAVE YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE THOSE BRAVE YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE ALREADY COME FORWARD AND TO THE ALREADY COME FORWARD AND TO THE MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE YET TO DO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE YET TO DO SO, LET ME REITERATE THAT WE SO, LET ME REITERATE THAT WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO STANDING FOR REMAIN COMMITTED TO STANDING FOR YOU IN OUR INVESTIGATION OF THE YOU IN OUR INVESTIGATION OF THE INVESTIGATION OF THE CONDUCT INVESTIGATION OF THE CONDUCT CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT, WHICH CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT, WHICH INCLUDED A CONSPIRACY COUNT, INCLUDED A CONSPIRACY COUNT, REMAINS ONGOING.” REMAINS ONGOING.” SO JOHN, THAT’S THE ESSENCE OF SO JOHN, THAT’S THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WE KNOW CONTINUES. WHAT WE KNOW CONTINUES.>>CONSPIRACIES ARE RARELY>>CONSPIRACIES ARE RARELY CONDUCT ADD LOAN. CONDUCT ADD LOAN. CONSPIRACIES USUALLY INVOLVE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY INVOLVE CO-CONSPIRATORS, AND WE HAVE CO-CONSPIRATORS, AND WE HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SOME IDEA ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE CLOSE TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. WERE CLOSE TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. MISS MAXWELL IS ONE OF THE MISS MAXWELL IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE POINTED TO FREQUENTLY. PEOPLE POINTED TO FREQUENTLY. IT IS THE CASE NOT BEING A IT IS THE CASE NOT BEING A LAWYER BUT HAVING LISTENED TO A LAWYER BUT HAVING LISTENED TO A LOT OF SMART LAWYERS OVER THE LOT OF SMART LAWYERS OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THE ONE POSITIVE WEEKEND THAT THE ONE POSITIVE ELEMENT OF THEN TIRE THING AND ELEMENT OF THEN TIRE THING AND THERE ARE REALLY — IT’S THERE ARE REALLY — IT’S OBVIOUSLY A REALLY DARK FURNISH OBVIOUSLY A REALLY DARK FURNISH OF EVENTS. OF EVENTS. BUT THE NOTION THAT THERE WILL BUT THE NOTION THAT THERE WILL NO LONGER BE STANDING OR THE NO LONGER BE STANDING OR THE ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THE ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THE SEARCHES OF ALL OF GEOFFREY SEARCHES OF ALL OF GEOFFREY EPSTEIN’S PROPERTIES, OF ALL OF EPSTEIN’S PROPERTIES, OF ALL OF HIS BANK RECORDS, THAT HE WON’T HIS BANK RECORDS, THAT HE WON’T HAVE LAWYERS WHO HAVE STABBEDING HAVE LAWYERS WHO HAVE STABBEDING ING ING STANDING TO FIGHT, SO IF THERE STANDING TO FIGHT, SO IF THERE ARE CASES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT ARE CASES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT AGAINST CO-CONSPIRATORS IT AGAINST CO-CONSPIRATORS IT SHOULD BE FOR A COMMITTED SET OF SHOULD BE FOR A COMMITTED SET OF PROSECUTORS EASIER TO GET PROSECUTORS EASIER TO GET EVIDENCE OF THAT CONSPIRACY THAN EVIDENCE OF THAT CONSPIRACY THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS FIGHTING AT EVERY TURN. FIGHTING AT EVERY TURN. AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE TESTS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS TESTS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS INVESTIGATION IS SERIOUS OR NOT. INVESTIGATION IS SERIOUS OR NOT. ARE WE NOW GOING TO SEE ARE WE NOW GOING TO SEE PROSECUTORS OR INVESTIGATORS PROSECUTORS OR INVESTIGATORS JUST RANSACKING EVERY L JEFFREY JUST RANSACKING EVERY L JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LIFE IN ORDER TO TRY EPSTEIN’S LIFE IN ORDER TO TRY TO FIND WHATEVER EVIDENCE EXISTS TO FIND WHATEVER EVIDENCE EXISTS OF ANYONE WHO IS COMPLICIT OF ANYONE WHO IS COMPLICIT WHETHER THEY’RE A CO-CONSPIRATOR WHETHER THEY’RE A CO-CONSPIRATOR OR JUST COMPLICIT IN THIS OR JUST COMPLICIT IN THIS BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE VICTIMS ARE OWED. THE VICTIMS ARE OWED.>>MIMI, ARE WE GOING TO KNOW>>MIMI, ARE WE GOING TO KNOW HOW JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED AND WHY HOW JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED AND WHY HE DIED AND WHO’S RESPONSIBLE? HE DIED AND WHO’S RESPONSIBLE?>>WELL, LOOK, THE INSPECTOR>>WELL, LOOK, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S REPORT I THINK THEY GENERAL’S REPORT I THINK THEY GENERALLY MAKE THEIR FINDINGS GENERALLY MAKE THEIR FINDINGS PUBLIC. PUBLIC. AND HER REASONABLY INDEPENDENT AND HER REASONABLY INDEPENDENT FROM BILL BARR ALTHOUGH PART OF FROM BILL BARR ALTHOUGH PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF KNOWING THAT. KNOWING THAT. THE FBI INVESTIGATION — AND BY THE FBI INVESTIGATION — AND BY THE WAY, I’M NOT CASTING THE WAY, I’M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS ON THE FBI AGENTS ASPERSIONS ON THE FBI AGENTS THEMSELVES. THEMSELVES. THIS IS ABOUT BARR OVERSEEING THIS IS ABOUT BARR OVERSEEING IT. IT. THAT IF IT’S A CRIMINAL THAT IF IT’S A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION WE WOULD ONLY KNOW INVESTIGATION WE WOULD ONLY KNOW ABOUT IF THEY BROUGHT CRIMINAL ABOUT IF THEY BROUGHT CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST SOMEONE. CHARGES AGAINST SOMEONE. AND I THINK IT’S JUST TOO EARLY AND I THINK IT’S JUST TOO EARLY TO SAY THAT. TO SAY THAT. I THINK ALSO THROUGH HOUSE I THINK ALSO THROUGH HOUSE OVERSIGHT WE WILL GET SOME OVERSIGHT WE WILL GET SOME ANSWERS. ANSWERS. SO YES, I THINK WE WILL GET THE SO YES, I THINK WE WILL GET THE ANSWERS. ANSWERS. I THINK IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO I THINK IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN PEOPLE WANT, TAKE LONGER THAN PEOPLE WANT, WHICH IS WHY BILL BARR SHOULD WHICH IS WHY BILL BARR SHOULD NOT BE DOING WHAT HE’S DOING NOT BE DOING WHAT HE’S DOING ALREADY, WHICH IS PUTTING OUT A ALREADY, WHICH IS PUTTING OUT A FEW LITTLE SELECT CRYPTIC FACTS FEW LITTLE SELECT CRYPTIC FACTS WITH HIS SPIN ON IT.

100 thoughts on “House Judiciary Asks If White House Linked To Jeffrey Epstein Decisions | The Last Word | MSNBC

  1. Epstein-Barr virus is a complex thing.  It's an intricate web of lifelong latencies including:  Kompromat, Russia, Ukraine, Mossad, Clinton, CIA, Trump, Virgin Islands, Mar a Lago, SDNY, Southern District of FL, Khashoggi, Maxwell, Saudi Arabia, Epstein, Barr and hundreds more.

  2. I love how the algorithm hides my comments when I talk about the ped0 files at msnbc covering for epstein.

  3. is THIS what the USA has become? when the the administration is more concerned about how a pedophile managed to off himself in prison, yet they don't seem one tiny bit concerned about how their POTUS incites hatred which leads domestic terrorists to murder people where they shop, where they eat, where they pray – because of that hatred.. better keep turning out those MAGA hats – it's gonna be awhile.

  4. A lot of people have sexually abused hundreds of girl and they must pay. Someone needs to come forth and tell the truth and tell all and the whole truth. Tell everything and ask for mercy from the court and just maybe you'll get it. People will do this again unless you tell. What if it was your child, what if it was you.

  5. Well, of course there are serious irregularities at the prison facility. Epstein survived his first "suicide" attempt. Obviously, SOMEONE screwed up.
    Wonder what would happen to Assange if he got extradited to the US with Barr as AG?

  6. It is Very Clear That Bill Clintion Went Straight TO The Prison and Loaned Jeffery A Bed Sheet And Told Him To Hang Himself With It… Just Ask Donald, He ALWAYS Tells The Truth… 73 Million People Can't Be Wrong///

  7. Barr needs to go. He is a crook working for Trump to cover all his criminal acts!
    45 ordered the murder of this man. Too much to loose!

  8. The death of their former friend Epstein, a potential incriminating witness against them, a bridge too far for the Toxic Trumpster and his Assassination Goon, B.S. Barr? House Judiciary Republicans FINALLY coming to their senses? We'd like to have some hope…

  9. if i was on watch guard duty that night ! ill forever be looking over my shoulder.or perhaps get promoted ,then fall down a large hole while walking my dog called justice !

  10. So Epstein died mysteriously in a Trump-controlled prison, knowing stuff about Trump's sexual predilections that Trump probably doesn't want him to say on record in a court of law…? Clearly Clinton did it! 😂😂😂

  11. Barr is a phony. If you're a Republican look out. If you a demonrat you can get away with murder. It's not just the Judiciary commmttee, its Oversight, and Justice as well. Kangaroo.

  12. It has been leaked. Epstein is not dead. Bar visited him the day before. He's in the witness protection program now. The FBI needs everyone to think he's dead. It's a ruse. The jail gaurd was not the gaurd that was supposed to be on duty that night. No cameras. Great ruse ! Covert action !

  13. Just love how gullible Americans have already swallowed hook, line & sinker that Epstein isn't living it up on one of his islands surrounded by a harem of little girls….

  14. Or did the corrupt cop that used to be Epstein's cell mate convince him that suicide was his best option? At the behest of corrupt politicos?

  15. The hit on Epstein's life reeks of you know who!!! There is a prison guard and/or a Warden who is suddenly a lot richer than he was last week. Epstein was about to expose a lot of 'elite' pedophile dirt bags and needed to be 'suicide-ed!'

  16. tRump, Barr and Moscow Mitch are as crooked and corrupt as they come and need to be removed from office, ASAP!!!

  17. There are serious irregularities in the appointment of Bill Barr as US Attorney General. There are serious irregularities within the GOP as a whole.

  18. Barr is a Roman Catholic in a position of power, it is a well established fact that Roman Catholic men in positions of power never take responsibility for any wrong doing committed under their watch. This is a also common characteristic of all fundamentalist christian men in positions of power. The smaller guy will be the fall guy!

  19. Epstein probably had dirt on both Trump and Clinton with regards to abuse of women; possibly under aged. Think about it, Trump is a known womanizer and Clinton got a BJ in the oval office. You can't trust either of them. Both Clinton and Trump are likely happy that Epstein is gone and can no longer expose them. This administration and some past administrations are no better than the Saudi government who ordered the murder and dismemberment of a US journalist. The truth will be divulged in the end.

  20. BARR ,WAS SENT IN TO FIND OUT IF EPSTEIN WAS GOING TO FLIP ON GUY'S LIKE TRUMP. BUT, AFTER MY OBSERVATION BILL CLINTON MAY HAVE KILLED HIM. THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF N.Y., IS STILL LOYAL TO THE CLINTON'S TILL THIS VERY DAY. NO CAMERA FOOTAGE, NO PROPER SECURITY CHECK'S AND NOONE KNOWING OR APPROVING EPSTEIN BE TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH WITH OUT ANYONE KNOWING IS VERY SUSPECT. THIS WAS A MURDER , 1 OF THESE PRESIDENT'S DID IT, GUARANTEED. 💯% BARR, ALSO VISITED EPSTEIN WHICH FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN IN PRISON BEFORE, RAISES QUESTION'S * NO MATTER WHO A PERSON IS A.G.'S DON'T DROP IN TO VISIT INMATE'S.PERIOD.

  21. William Barr is sure looking suspicious….. Pretty obvious that Barr is covering up for both Donald Trump and his own father who suspiciously hired Epstein as a pedophile high school math teacher without even a college degree…. Every single aspect of Donald Trump's presidency is a complete and utter disgusting mess….

  22. Donald is a mixture of every country in the world while professing that he only likes America. He professes his undying love of dictators, what to remove the freedom of the press and freedom of speech like Communists, follows the methodology of Socialist Russia, and also gives away tax payers money and gives them to farmers to help limit the number of foreclosures. Finally it appears that he is following in the footsteps of Putin by getting rid of anyone who gets in his way. Is he going to manufacture 'evidence' against the Clintons or any other American to cover up his involvement, just like Putin during his life?
    So, donald lives the life of a free American while practicing the methods to everyone else of a Socialist Communist Dictator! 2020 can't come quickly enough.

  23. THIS COUNTRIES A JOKE THATS WHY THERE WILL ALWAYS WILL BE AN UNDERGROUND BLACK MARKET GIVING THE POOR WHAT THEY CANT GET FROM THE THIEVIN GOVT OF OURS

  24. So Epstein is a FORMER friend off Donald Trump – and his death means Donald Trump is a former womanising past friend of Epstein – can we all hear a large gasp of air exhalation from the Oval office. SAVED AGAIN!

  25. Where the body of Jeffrey Epstein???you did not show in media …or you put him underground to protect him his money and properties made through wrong doings and illegal means …

  26. What if …Barr Trump and Clinton we're captured on film by Epstein. What if Trump and Barr are dirty enough to have purged their own record or possibly even had Jeffrey Epstein do it for them when the arrest was being planned. Once the raid took place it was again confirmed that Barr and Trumps records were destroyed he could call the hit on Epstein. Then Trump could point to the Clinton dirt and another high-ranking perverts and say see I told you they were perverts! I can't think of anything that would lock down his base better then his racism xenophobia and reverse robin hood practices combined with I told you the clintons were dirty.

  27. Is your name on the flight logs Lawrence??? Do you have a close personal relationship with Epstein??? Are you implicated in the scandal?? Is this why you are outrageously biased??? Learn to code…..

  28. What's this I keep hearing that attorney general Bill Barr paid a secret visit to Epstein in jail shortly before he was found dead, what's the story on that?

  29. The corruption of this administration keeps getting juicier and when we thought we he'd seen new lows with every scandal we keep going lower to depths of chaotic governmental misfunction just so long as it deflects from #45; and William Barr will now uphold common law especially after The Mueller Report conspiracy lies and with a statement of launching an investigation against who?

  30. Barr is Trump's little poodle, trump wanted Epstein disappeared. Sit, Barr, good boy, here's your biscuit.

  31. Dog and pony show brought to you by the executive branch of our government! Heads must roll and people must resign. The DOJ is one big lie!

  32. So what you're saying and by #45 statement… trump knew he was a pedophile and didn't report it😳
    Cover-up… Than and Now???

  33. Listening to the execution of this new show can you possibly believe it this is a trump bashing I'm from UK and because of prince Andrew Totaly hit on the head this story

  34. Epstein, Trump and Barr are friends and birds of a feather flock together, pedophile = pedophile. Simple. Watch the movie/documentary "THE FAMILY" on Netflix.

  35. Stop spreading conspiracy theories and calling it news!!! Occasionally, I try to believe that y'all are still valid and sane. That's a conspiracy theory lacking evidence of any kind, and pushing that there is only one person who wants a trafficker dead. There are hundreds of powerful people who wanted him dead. It's doubtful that it would be Trump because that would be too obvious.

  36. Dumbocraps like “Stop the Hammering” ODonnell are obsessed with Trump. Clinton has closer ties to Epstein than trump but no mention of Bubba Bill’s 27 trips to Pedo island

  37. Who ever had Epstein killed will be haunted until the truth comes out. Just remember whatever done in the dark will soon come to light. I don't care what you do in life whatever it may be, It's only just a matter of time and the truth will be revealed.

  38. As Remo Gaggi in Casino replied in a private court room with other bosses, "Look, why take a chance. At least that's the way I feel about it." Queue in the death montage.

  39. Bill Barr recusing himself isn't going to do it for trust in this situation. Trust is a joke when it comes to this group of criminal clowns.

  40. He is a live and well, as we all know, what ever they say is a cover up, the CIA or Russia, or anyone who is involved in the Trump….William Barr has been friends since he was a child…trust me Epstein is a live and well with his girlfriend…follow the money…..

  41. William Barr is going to thoroughly "investigate" Epstein's suicide, and Barr's investigation is going to find that this guy Hugh Hurwitz is a convenient fall guy.

  42. It is so OBVIOUS…

    He was MURDERED….by WHOM does NOT MATTER….

    What matter is WHO ORDERED HIS KILLING?….

    Any IDEA?….

  43. Suidice watches…WHO authorized the dismissal of this watch.
    DID Epstein remain in the same cell which the watch was conducted, if yes..
    WHERE is the video recording for that suicide cell..standard requirement.
    WHO were the Officers assigned to the watch or assigned to that area.
    WHO VERIFIED the deceased/body.
    DNA, PICS and physical stats etc
    Height, weight, body Markings, tattoo, and DENTAL..
    IF the questions are not known or conducted then INVESTIGATE.
    Body switching/swapping or MURDER occurred from HIGH RANKING INDIVIDUALS….

  44. If things were so screwed up at the facility – where was the Inspector General? That's the office that's supposed to be the watchdog.

  45. Donald Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from all his properties years back. Epstein's friend's were primarily Harvard Professors and the Democratic elite of Washington and Hollywood.
    Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita Express over 26 times according to the flight logs along with many other big names..
    Everyone with money around the World knew and associated with Epstein over the years, but Donald Trump was was down on that list.
    To have started this report off with Donald Trump is definitely FAKE NEWS.

  46. Too many HIGH LEVEL people want to see Epstein a deathman. Its pushing too hard to make believe he is suicide. Ones as Greedy like Epstein will definitly write his wish before suicide. He is definitely being assassinated in the jail by admin insiders.. And look out Trump's previous threatening records to whoever endangered his presidency… I think we all think the same…

  47. This AG is a danger to the American Justice System and should be removed! The question is who is going to do it?

  48. Barr’s father gave Epstein a teaching job even though he only had a HS diploma. I wonder what Epstein had on Barr Sr?

  49. Stupid Trump had a great fall. ALL of Trumps horseman and all of trumps men/woman couldn't put Trump together again.

  50. The Traitor AG Barr has seized control of the Epstein scandal so he can cover up any involvement by Fat Donny and his crime family. Unless the media keeps the pressure on, this will be buried once they've implicated everyone outside the Trump circle.

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