New video raises questions about Kavanaugh accuser’s testimony


WHAT WILL HE DO ABOUT THIS ONE? BRIAN: DISAPPOINTED IN THE MLS ON THAT. ONE YEAR SINCE JUSTICE BRET COUGH VIEW NOMINATION WAS ROCKED BY CONTROVERSY. YOU.>>I BELIEVE IT IS MY CIVIC DUTY TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. MY MOTIVATION COMING FORWARD WAS TO BE HELPFUL AND TO PROVIDE FACTS ABOUT HOW MR. KAVANAUGH ACTIONS DAMAGED MY LIFE SO THAT YOU COULD TAKE INTO A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION. AINSLEY: NOW, NEWLY UNCOVERED VIDEO OF HER LAWYER IS RAISING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TESTIMONY.>>YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN ASTERISK NEXT TO HIS NAME. WHEN HE TAKES A SCALPEL TO ROE V. WADE, WE WILL KNOW WHO HE IS, WE WILL KNOW HIS CHARACTER WE KNOW WHAT MOTIVATES HIM. THAT IS IMPORTANT. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF WHAT MOTIVATED CHRISTINE. AINSLEY: OUR NEXT GUEST WAS THE FIRST TO REPORT ON THAT. IT IS ALL IN HIS NEW BOOK, SEARCH AND DESTROY, INSIDE THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST BRETT KAVANAUGH. STEVE: JOINING US RIGHT NOW, REPORTER FOR AMERICAN LAWYER MAGAZINE, AUTHOR, RYAN LOVELACE. HE JOINS US FROM D.C.>>GOOD MORNING. STEVE: I KNOW YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD BUT YOU FOUND THE VIDEO ON A WEBSITE FOR THE LAST FIVE MONTHS WHERE IT I CAN TALKS, DEBRA KATZ, HER LAWYER TALKS ABOUT MOTIVATION. YOU’RE CONNECTING DOTS. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?>>WELL I’M LOOKING AT THIS IN REPORTING “SEARCH AND DESTROY” OUT, I LOOKED AT DEBRA KATZ, GOING TO HER TALKS, WATCHING WHAT HE DOES, TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE ADVERSARIES, HEARING HER SAY CLIENT WAS MOTIVATED BY ROE V. WADE, TAINTING ANYTHING JUSTICE KAVANAUGH MIGHT DO ABOUT IT, IT RAISES TWO THINGS. AS CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD’S LAWYER THAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD WAS AMBIVALENT ABOUT ALL THIS. SHE SAID IT WAS ABOUT HER CIVIC DUTY. RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL MOTIVATION. IF SHE WAS IN FACT MOTIVATED TRYING TO TAINT JUSTICE KAVANAUGH, FOR WHAT PURPOSE WAS THAT? SECONDLY AS YOU MENTIONED THIS VIDEO HAS BEEN AVAILABLE PUBLICLY FOR SOME TIME, NO ONE IN THE PRESS HAS PAID ATTENTION TO IT. I REALLY THINK IT STARTS TO SHOW SOME OF THE NEGLIGENCE THAT WENT ON IN TERMS OF THE COVERAGE OF THIS STORY, REALLY INVESTIGATING, GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF ALL THE INTENT AN MOTIVATION WHAT HAPPENED. STEVE: RYAN, HAD PEOPLE KNOWN ABOUT THIS MOTIVATION COMMENT, PERHAPS THE SENATORS WOULD HAVE DIRECTED THEIR QUESTIONS DIFFERENTLY?>>ABSOLUTELY I THINK THEY WOULD. I THINK WHEN WE WERE WATCHING THE HEARINGS AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW WAS RACHEL MITCHELL, THE QUESTIONER FOR REPUBLICANS ASKING SYMPATHETIC PROBING QUESTIONS BUT NOT ADVERSARIAL. PERHAPS IF THEY KNEW THAT THE MOTIVATION AS DESCRIBED BY DEBRA KATZ DIFFERED FROM WHAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID, IF THEY KNEW ABOUT THE THINGS THAT AFTER THE HEARING HAPPENED THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. BRIAN: WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST QUESTION?>>THERE IS A FEW FRANKLY. WHAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID HAPPENED ONLY CORROBORATED BY HER. WHEN IT HAPPENED, WHERE IT HAPPENED, SHE CAN’T QUITE SAY. WE HAVE TO GET TO, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? WE HAVEN’T HEARD FROM HER DIRECTLY WHY THIS HAPPENED. WHETHER OR NOT DEBRA KATZ IS CORRECT IN SAYING THIS. DEBRA KATZ IN TALKING ABOUT HER STRATEGY SAID YOU NEED A LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY, YOU NEED A PRESS STRATEGY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ORGANIZED FORCES, WORK WITH NON-PROFITS REST OF THAT IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WAS CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD WORKING WITH ALL THOSE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT DEBRA KATZ MENTIONED THAT HAD BEEN TRYING TO CANCEL KAVANAUGH’S NOMINATION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING EVEN BEFORE HE GOT PICKED.>>TELL US ABOUT YOUR BOOK. “SEARCH AND DESTROY”?>>I’VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SEVERAL MONTHS A YEAR ON FROM THE HEARINGS. WHAT I’VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WALK READERS THROUGH STEP BY STEP THE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT WERE OUT THERE, EVEN BEFORE KAVANAUGH’S NOMINATION THAT ROSE UP AND TRIED TO CANCEL THIS NOMINATION. THERE IS A LOT OF ATTACKS ON LEGITIMACY AND AUTHORITY OF THE COURT. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO SPEAK TO ME BECAUSE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT HAVE SAID THAT JUSTICE GORSUCH SITS IN STOLEN SEAT THAT BELONGED TO MERRICK GARLAND PRESIDENT OBAMA’S NOMINEE. NOW THEY’RE TRYING TO PUT AS TERRIFIC NEXT TO JUSTICE KAVANAUGH’S NAME. PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND PRECISELY WHAT THAT MEANS. THE ATTACKS ON LEGITIMACY AND AUTHORITY OF THE COURT AT THAT ENTAILS. BRIAN: WONDERING TOO, IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WASN’T ABLE TO COME TOGETHER ON THIS, IF IT WOULD HAVE FALLEN APART BECAUSE KAVANAUGH HAS ROOTS WITH THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHO WAS PICKED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IT GAL VANNIZED ANY ANTI-TRUMP FORCE BECAUSE HE HAD MORE TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN BACKGROUND. DO YOU THINK THAT PLAYED A ROLE?>>I THINK IT DID. TALKING TO FOLKS YOU HEAR THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST THINGS, SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS ARE GAL VAN NICING UNITED MOMENT FOR CON IRV TIFFS AND REPUBLICANS WRIT LARGE. WHEN WE SAW MICHAEL AVENATTI STEP FORWARD, THAT WAS MOMENT WHICH REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES GOT THEIR SPINE BACK, REALLY STEPPED UP, CAME TOGETHER AND HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED, WE WOULD BE IN A MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE RIGHT NOW I THINK.

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