The ‘Mother Of All Bombs’ Explained | For The Record | MSNBC


VISIT THERE SINCE 2009.
WE’VE GOT A FULL PANEL TO
DISCUSS THIS.
WITH ME NBC CHIEF FOREIGN
CORRESPONDENT RICHARD ENGEL, BOB
SCALES, THE ATLANTIC’S
WASHINGTON EDITOR AT LARGE STEVE
CLEMENS, AND HUFFINGTON POST
GLOBAL EDITORIAL DIRECTOR HOWARD
FINE MAN.
GREAT TO HAVE ALL OF YOU HERE.
GENERAL, SECOND LARGEST BOMB IN
OUR ARSENAL, WALK US THROUGH.
WHAT IS THIS THING AND HOW MUCH
DAMAGE CAN IT DO?
>>THIS IS A MODERN VERSION OF
THE VIETNAM ERA DAISY CUTTER.
IT IS 11 TONS OF EXPLOSIVE.
IT’S NOT DROPPED FROM A BOMBER.
IT’S DROPPED FROM THE WEIRD GATE
OF A CARGO PLANE.
A PARA CHUTE PULLS IT OUT, IT
SEPARATES FROM THE PARACHUTE,
AND IT’S GUIDED TO THE TARGET BY
GPS.
>>SO IT’S ACCURATE.
>>IT’S PRECISION ACCURATE.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT
FRAGMENTATION, NOT SHRAPNEL.
IT’S TO BUILDUP AN OVERPRESSURE
OR BLAST, IF YOU WILL.
PURPOSE OF IT IS TO COLLAPSE
BUILDINGS, TEAR UP RAIL
JUNCTIONS, COLLAPSE TUNNELS
THROUGH THE BLAST.
IT DOESN’T KILL THROUGH
SHRAPNEL.
SO, IT MAKES IT UNIQUE IN THE
ARSENAL.
AND THE NATION, WE’VE GOT 13 OF
THESE LEFT.
THEY’VE BEEN SITTING IN FLORIDA
FOR, WHAT, 15, 16 YEARS.
>>WHY USE IT NOW?
>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS WAS
A SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND
REQUEST.
IT’S THEIR MISSION.
THIS MISSION HAS BEEN IN THE
WORKS FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WAS
TO TEST IT IN THE NARROW
CONFINES OF THOSE AFGHAN VALLEYS
TO SEE IF THE, IF THE BOMB
LANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT
CAN USE THOSE CONFINING WALLS TO
BUILDUP OVERPRESSURE AND CAUSE
DAMAGE TO TUNNELS, MOSTLY
TUNNELS IN THE AREA.
THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT EFFECT
THAT WOULD HAVE ON TUNNELS.
SO PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE THEY
CAN USE IT AGAIN AGAINST MORE
LUCRATIVE TARGETS.
>>IT’S BEEN IN THE WORKS, THEN,
BUT STEVE, EVEN THOUGH THE
PRESIDENT HAS SAID FROM THE VERY
TIME HE STARTED RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT THAT ISIS WAS GOING TO
BE IN HIS SIGHTS, WHY THIS, WHY
NOW?
>>WELL, I THINK THAT HE HAS
DONE WHAT HE SAID, WHICH HE’S
GIVEN THE MILITARY AUTHORIZATION
TO MOVE ALMOST WITHOUT HIM
KNOWING WHAT THEY’RE DOING.
THAT’S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO
ME.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW ISIS — I
MEAN, IT IS ODD BECAUSE THOSE OF
US WHO HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE
DIRECTION OF ISIS HAVE BEEN
LOOKING AT SYRIA AND IRAQ.
AND, SO, THE FACT THAT YOU’VE
GOT ISIS ACTIVE —
>>WHEN HE SAID I’M GOING TO
BOMB THE — I’M NOT GOING TO SAY
THE WORD — OUT OF THEM, HE WAS
TALKING ABOUT SYRIA AND IRAQ AND
THE OIL FIELDS.
>>RIGHT.
WHAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME,
THOUGH, ABOUT WHAT THE GENERAL
JUST SHARED IN TERMS OF HIS
KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THIS DID, IT
ALMOST REMINDS ME OF THE OLD
WORLD WAR II STRATEGIST, FAMOUS
STRATEGIST PAUL NITZA, WHO BUILT
HIS REPRESENTATION OF SOMEBODY
WHO STUDIED BOMB DAMAGE DURING
WORLD WAR II.
IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE A MEETING
OF A STRATEGIC NEED THAT WAS
DECIDED IN THE FIELD TO TRY AND
DO SOMETHING HERE.
WHAT COULD YOU DO WITH THIS BOMB
THEY’VE NEVER USED BEFORE?
SOUNDS LIKE A BIT OF
EXPERIMENTATION AS WELL AS WHAT
IS THE NEED OF ACTUALLY TRYING
TO DISRUPT ISIS?
THAT RAISES THE QUESTIONS OF
WHAT DO THEY THINK THEY CAN DO
NEXT WITH THIS BOMB AND WHERE
WOULD THEY DROP IT.
>>YEAH, WE’LL GET TO THAT.
BUT RICHARD, I WANT TO GO TO
YOU.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
THE REGION WHERE THIS WAS, WHO
MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE, AND WHAT
YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT THE
STRATEGY OF GOING THERE.
AEL SO, JUST TO PICKUP ON THE
THEME THAT WE WERE JUST
DISCUSSING ABOUT
EXPERIMENTATION, THEY’RE NOT
THAT MANY PLACES WHERE YOU CAN
DROP A BOMB LIKE THIS.
AS THE GENERAL MENTIONED, IT IS
DROPPED FROM A CARGO PLANE, THE
REAR OF THE CARGO PLANE OPENS, A
PARACHUTE PULLS THE THING OUT.
CARGO PLANES FLY RELATIVELY LOW,
THEY FLY SLOWLY.
SO, YOU CAN’T GO INTO AN AREA
LIKE SYRIA OR IRAN WITH A CARGO
PLANE.
NOWHERE WHERE THEY HAVE HEAVY
AIR DEFENSES.
SO, IN REMOTE AFGHANISTAN WHERE
THERE ARE NOT MANY PEOPLE,
PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA
NANGAHAR PROVINCE —
>>THAT’S NEAR THE PAKISTAN
PROVINCE, IS THAT RIGHT?
>>IT IS.
IT’S A VERY, VERY REMOTE PART OF
AFGHANISTAN ALONG THE PAKISTAN I
BORDER.
IT IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BIG
STRONG HOLDS OF ISIS.
AND IF YOU WERE TO HIT A TUNNEL
COMPLEX, WHICH IS WHAT THE
MILITARY SAID IT HIT, A TUNNEL
COMPLEX IT CLAIMS WAS BEING USED
BY ISIS, THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY
PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
ONE WOULD PRESUME THERE ARE NOT
MANY PEOPLE IN A TUNNEL COMPLEX
IN NANGAHAR PROVINCE.
AND THEY’RE NOT SOPHISTICATED
AIR DEFENSES SO IT’S AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DROP THIS BOMB ON
AN ENEMY THAT IS DECLARED AND
CLEAR AND UNDERSTOOD WITHOUT THE
RISK OF TOO MANY CIVILIAN
CASUALTIES.
AND WITHOUT THE RISK OF BEI BEI
SHOT DOWN BY SOPHISTICATED AIR
DEFENSES.
THE QUESTION IS, AND THE GENERAL
HAD A VERY SORT OF SLIPPERY
PHASE THERE, HE SAID PERHAPS
THEY’RE TESTING IT FOR MORE
LUCRATIVE TARGETS.
SO DOES THAT MEAN IRAN, DOES
THAT MEAN NORTH KOREA?
I DON’T KNOW WHAT THOSE
LUCRATIVE TARGETS MIGHT BE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT
CLIMATE, NORTH KOREA WOULD COME
TO MIND.
>>LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS TARGET
AND WHAT EFFECT THIS MIGHT HAVE
IN THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS,
RICHARD.
>>WELL, ISIS HAS FRANKLY THE
WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS NOT GOING
TERRIBLY WELL.
THERE ARE JUST UNDER 10,000 U.S.
TROOPS THERE.
BUT THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT
REMAINS QUITE WEAK AND THERE ARE
MANY POCKETS OF THE COUNTRY
WHERE THERE IS STILL GREAT ISIS
INFLUENCE.
AL QAEDA INFLUENCE, TALIBAN
INFLUENCE, AND THOSE GROUPS CAN
EFFECTIVELY CARRY OUT HIT AND
RUN STYLE ATTACKS WHENEVER THEY
WANT TO IN KABUL.
IF YOU REMEMBER A MONTH AGO,
ISIS STAGED AN ELABORATE DRAWN
OUT ATTACK ON A HOSPITAL RIGHT
IN THE CENTER OF KABUL.
AFGHAN SPECIAL FORCES HAD TO
LAND ON THE ROOF AND TRY AND
BREAK INTO THE BUILDING.
AND THERE WERE PATIENTS AND
MEDICAL STAFF WHO WERE CLINGING
TO THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING
WHILE ISIS WAS GOING FROM ROOM
TO ROOM KILLING PEOPLE.
THAT’S HAPPENING IN THE CAPITAL.
SO, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO USE AN
ENORMOUS BOMB LIKE THIS TO
ELIMINATE A CONCENTRATION OR
TUNNEL COMPLEX OF ISIS FIGHTERS,
BUT ALSO TO TRY AND SEND A
PSYCHOLOGICAL MESSAGE.
IT IS A FRIGHTENING WEAPON.
IT MAKES A LOT OF NOISE.
IT ACTUALLY LITERALLY WILL MAKE
THE GROUND SHAKE.
SO, YOU WOULD WANT TO TERRIFY
YOUR ENEMY, SHOCK AND AWE THE
ENEMY, AND USE IT IN A PLACE
THAT IS PERMISSIBLE.
>>SO A MESSAGE TO THE ENEMY,
BUT I WONDER IF IT’S A MESSAGE
TO THE PRESIDENT’S BASE DOING
WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.
HE CALLED IT TODAY A VERY
SUCCESSFUL MISSION.
LET ME JUST PLAY THAT.
>>IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS’
HAPPENED OVER THE LAST EIGHT
WEEKS AND COMPARE THAT TO REALLY
TO WHAT’S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST
EIGHT YEARS, YOU’LL SEE THERE IS
A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE,
TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.
SO, WE HAVE INCREDIBLE LEADERS
IN THE MILITARY.
WE HAVE INCREDIBLE MILITARY.
AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM.
AND THIS WAS ANOTHER VERY, VERY
SUCCESSFUL MISSION.
>>SO, ONE PART OF THIS IS THE
MILITARY PART OF IT.
THE OTHER PART IS THE POLITICAL
PARTS OF IT.
HOW DO YOU READ THAT PART OF IT,
HOWARD?
>>WELL, THERE ARE TWO OR THREE
PARTS TO THE POLITICAL ANSWER.
ONE OF THEM IS TYPICAL TRUMP
THINK, WHICH IS I’M GOING TO
DISTINGUISH MYSELF FROM BARACK
OBAMA IN ANY WAY I POSSIBLY CAN.
>>SO, SYRIA, NOW AFGHANISTAN.
>>YES.
AND ALSO BARACK OBAMA HAD LITTLE
DRONES.
I’VE GOT A 21,000-POUND BOMB,
OKAY.
>>NOBODY HAS EVER USED IT.
>>NOBODY HAS EVER USED BEFORE.
BARACK OBAMA DIDN’T HAVE THE
GUTS TO USE, BUT I HAVE THE GUTS
TO USE.
EVEN THOUGH I DON’T THINK HE
KNEW ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE,
ACTUALLY.
OKAY.
THAT’S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, THERE IS THE
INTERPLAY WITHIN THE
ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS THE
PENTAGON IS SHOWING PRESIDENT
TRUMP THEIR WARES.
DON’T FORGET WE HAD THE FIGHT
AGAINST STEVE BANNON.
THAT’S OVER.
H.R. McMASTER, REX TILLERSON
PRETTY MUCH CORNERED THE
ISOLATIONIST, SO-CALLED,
ANTIGLOBALIST STEVE BANNON.
PUT HIM IN A CORNER.
AND THIS IS A DEMONSTRATION WHAT
THEY COULD DO.
NUMBER THREE, THIS IS DONALD
TRUMP’S KIND OF WAR ACTION.
IT’S DROPPING A BIG BOMB.
IT’S NOT PUTTING BOOTS ON THE
GROUND.
IT’S SHOWING STRENGTH WITHOUT
COMMITTING TROOPS.
AND IT’S MESSAGE SENDING.
SO, IT’S EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS
TO DO AND IT’S ISIL.
THIS IS A BRANCH OF ISIL OUT
THERE IN AFGHANISTAN, ISIL-K.
AND HE’S GONE AFTER WHO HE SAID
I WAS GOING TO GO AFTER WHEN HE
RAN FOR OFFICE.
SO, AND ALSO THIS SHOWS THE
FURTHER SHIFT OF DONALD TRUMP
FROM DOMESTIC ISSUES TO GLOBAL
ISSUES.
EVERY PRESIDENT EVENTUALLY
DECIDES THEY’VE HAD ENOUGH WITH
CONGRESS, ENOUGH WITH THE
BUREAUCRACY, ENOUGH WITH THE
PRESS.
I’M GOING TO GET INTO GLOBAL
AFFAIRS.
DONALD TRUMP HAS RUSHED IN TO
GLOBAL CONSCIOUSNESS WITHIN A
FEW WEEKS OF THE BEGINNING OF
HIS PRESIDENCY.
>>ALSO SOMETHING INTERESTING
THAT McMASTER IS GOING, A
SMALLER MESSAGE MAYBE, BUT WHAT
DO YOU MAKE OF THAT, STEVE?
>>I THINK McMASTER IS TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT — THEY’VE ADVOCATED
PUTTING MORE TROOPS BACK INTO
AFGHANISTAN AND TRYING TO SORT
OF LOOK AT WHAT THEY CAN DO TO
RETURN IT.
OUR LEVELS OF TROOPS RIGHT NOW
ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE KABUL
DOESN’T FAUM.
YOU HAVE A RISE OF WAR LORDS IN
AFGHANISTAN AND A RISE OF
TALIBAN.
VIRTUALLY EVERYWHERE ELSE WE
ARE.
INTERESTING ABOUT ATTACKING ISIL
AND AFGHANISTAN, IT IS PROBABLY
THE LEAST SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF
THE SO-CALLED ENEMY OR LIST OF
CONCERNS THERE.
IT WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE
STRATEGIC TIP OR BALANCE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT BECAUSE IT’S
BIG THEATRICAL, IT’S SCARY.
THIS WAS NOT TAKING OUT THE
HAKANI NETWORK.
IT WAS NOT TAKING OUT VARIOUS
PIECES OF THE AL QAEDA
AFFILIATED TALIBAN NETWORK.
I THINK THAT HAS TO BE THOUGHT
ABOUT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT’S
PROBABLY CRUDE TO CALL IT THIS,
BUT BOTH IN SYRIA IN THE KIND OF
STRIKE WE HAD ON THE AIR BASE
AND WITH THIS BIG BOMB THAT WAS
IN A REMOTE AREA, THEY’RE PRETTY
POLITE STRIKES THAT HAVE LOW
RISK AND THAT DON’T NECESSARILY
CREATE LOTS OF BLOW BACK FOR THE
UNITED STATES.
>>TO BE CYNICAL ABOUT IT
POLITICALLY, THEY CHANGED THE
SUBJECT BIG TIME.
OKAY, WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
THE HEALTH CARE BILL, WE’RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT THE WALL.
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP
AS A GLOBAL ACTOR.
>>AND SO IN OUR LAST 30
SECONDS, WHERE MIGHT THERE BE
USED NEXT?
>>I DON’T KNOW.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE A PROOF OF
PRINCIPLE.
I DON’T THINK THE PRESIDENT EVEN
AUTHORIZED THIS.
I THINK IT CAME FROM THE
GENERAL.
I KNOW THIS MISSION AS I SAID
EARLIER HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
THIS IS PART OF A EXPLORATION,
IF YOU WILL, OF HOW THEY COULD
USE THIS WEAPON.
PERHAPS IN OTHER PLACES.
>>NORTH KOREA HAS A LOT OF
TUNNELS.
>>YEAH, BUT THIS BOMB IS
INAPPROPRIATE FOR NORTH KOREA.
IT’S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
MISSION, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
SET OF C

100 thoughts on “The ‘Mother Of All Bombs’ Explained | For The Record | MSNBC

  1. Even though I don't fully agree with all of Trump's decision, you still have to respect him for the fact that he is doing what he said he was going to do. He said he was going to deport muslims, weeks after he was put in office a good amount of muslim families were deported. He said he was going to build a wall, right now there are plans of the wall and even a map showing where it is exactly going to be. Like I said, I'm not one of those die hard trump "worshippers" xd but you gotta give him credit for what he is doing.

  2. If you're scared, think about this. If you were in afghanistan right now, and an isis soldier walks up to you with an ak-47 and pulls the trigger, in that 500 miliseconds what would you do? nothing because you wouldn't be able to react.

  3. wtf.. "they want to test it on those confined spaces"… why make excuses to test on other country .. why can't you just drop it in US for testing

  4. Why would he let the world know who many of these bombs we have left, …….. geeze follow the SECS Intel-sec, OPSEC, Persec, and ect. secs! …………..Go Trump, Hooyah, bye bye ISIS

  5. it's amazing to me how everyone forgot about Trump's first mission and how we lost a Navy SEAL and killed 20 kids

  6. 9:55 – "we're not talking about this, we're not talking about this, we're talking about this!" ok songebob

  7. If Trump did not OK this, why didn't some general do this while Obama was president? Network and other major media seem poised against not only this administration, but the U.S.A.. Who really owns our news providers and what is their real agenda? Who even heard of isis(Ra, Horus, She-Ra, Skeletor, theJoker,LexLuther…..) before barrak shipped the GITMO A-Team back to the middle east. Surely WE did not send this upper echelon terrorist leadership staffing packet straight to Syria, did we?

  8. Why does that guy keep saying it could be dropped on North Korea? The general was quite clear this can't be dropped where there is air defense systems.

  9. "Which I don't think he knew about beforehand…" Really? The president of the United States didn't know about the MOAB… Are you that conceited? Of course the president knows about the MOAB, it has existed since the cold war you imbecile. It was a demonstration weapon, meant to give a message of intent without actually being used in the cold war… Let me guess if he didn't know about the MOAB then Russia didn't even know about their own reply at the time, the Tsar Bomba. Either you are a child, or you think the rest of the entire world is a child. Stop acting like America is a pack of idiots.

  10. So what's an M-130? The only reference I could find was to three Martin flying boats, all three have crashed over 70 years ago.

  11. whether you're Republican or Democrat you gotta admit, trump is doing something good. dropping a bomb on ISIS? that's something Obama did t have the BALLS to do

  12. prove it – you just keep showing testing video – why no ground coverage – never seen that happen before

  13. Now MSNBC (the left) wants to point out distractions in the media. Good to know they have some conservatism left in them. Welcome to the human race.

  14. Can bombs be justified? Can lost lives be? With enough reasoning and understanding most anything can be.

    IMHO the important question right now is, should we be applauding this actions? should we be HAPPY about it? let's just accept that this is nothing more than a TRAGEDY, and our greatest hope is that it will end as fast and painless as possible… I'll be waiting and hoping that the most suited and intelligent men on the field, ho have dedicated their lives to the study of the crude intricacies of war, will know the best course of action.

    The death of the enemy is not to be applauded, just the end of the war.

  15. Wow. The first few minutes were ok here until that woman rolled her eyes and got REAL hateful sounding. Liberal news station no doubt. They're blinded by their hatred of Trump so much that they can't do a five minute segment strictly on the news. They have to throw in their hatred and opinion. Time to switch channels!

  16. This bomb killed hundreds of ISIS ( shamelessly I hope so ) but the trouble is, at the same time it created hundred of thousands of determined enemy for us Americans. The enemy will retaliate when all this boasting is forgotten and we cry for justice and fairness. And perhaps that's all the gain for the trump mafia. A nation in fear or under attack doesn't care much about the possibilities of deep corruption in the top office. We did the same in Vietnam era by a thousands time over for years to no avail. Lace up the boots boys and girls they are hitting the drum of war again.

  17. This was already in place and being planned before Trump became the President. President Obama's administration approved the moving of the MOAB to that region.

  18. Liberals and conservatives, do you REALLY want to stop going to war? Then think SMALL. ONLY SMALL GOVERNMENTS stay out of wars. History shows that big governments ALWAYS get on a war footing, regardless of who controls them. Old school conservatives (prior to the neo-con dominated Reagan Administration) are the only TRUE anti-war group of people. The Green Party preaches anti-war, but they are a Marxist group, and ALL Marxists are internationalists who believe in one world government as Karl Marx preached, and that requires war to conquer all those who resist. If you want REAL peace, then THINK SMALL. Otherwise, it won't end until the nukes are flying.

  19. Yes to add to the discussion on the British 22,000lb Grand Slam earthquake bomb this was carried by modified Lancaster bombers that had the mid upper turret removed. Didn't have to be pinpoint accurate as the blast and particularly the shockwave destroyed everything in the vicinity.

  20. this does not sound like a prelude to war to me. the bomb seemed very contained and deliberate as the term 'mother of all bombs' depicts. sounds nothing like world war II. the u.s. has used cruel and inhuman types of bombs which would be to any mother's objection.

  21. Its a useless bomb, that can only be used in area away from civilian populations and against a enemy that don't have any air defense.

  22. Nobody wants to fight a war for Donald Trump and his Zionist deep state insiders. Don't believe the Syrian hoax.

  23. US is doing a bomb test in another country? That's what the general was saying. Amazing! "Rule of law" doesn't mean anything in the US empire. It is just law of the jungle – inside the US the same as in international affairs. And media propaganda using Orwellian new speak selling this as "freedom" and "democracy".

  24. Trump just condemned his entire family, ISIS coming after them, but nothing to worry about. Death comes to us all just like MOAB.

  25. When some idiots started saying Trump is presidential after he send missiles to Syria, he realized he could use the military to stay presidential. Thanks idiots.

  26. If the target was a network of underground tunnels and caves, isn't there a bomb that's more appropriate, the MOP or something? The MOAB is exploded before it reaches the ground and will mostly blast what's on the surface, even if the shockwaves are so gigantic that they will also reach underground and apparently break windows 2 miles away from the point of impact.

  27. i like the question "why use it now"?….
    the facts are not being told truthfully this could and will affect the Americans as well as the people and land it was dropped on. this mean war….but i pray and hope not.

  28. The mother of all bombs literally speaking. Making political capital out of nothing. Media sucking it up. Imagine the pilot of the cargo plane he/she would have to be so numbed of human sensibility to admit the fear. Loaded with a bomb that can get shot out by a ground rocket. The mission is a death sacrifice. Someone would receive a letter of condolence from Mr. Trump.

    Its utterly diabolical that America spends its talent into making these things. Remember Pierce Morgan, he used to challenge America's gun laws on TV but never challenged Britain's gun laws. Pierce's high moral ground against guns in America was based on his British loyalty to gun manufacturers second to the US in the production of these immoral objects. Morality and competition are incontrovertible but not on TV everything is an act.

    Why immoral because the ends, i.e., dispossession by force do not justify the means. For all the sacrifices made to maintain freedom these are countries important as new nurseries in development of new markets. The old ones cost too much to invest into that for the old markets the compensation to all who sacrificed does not live up to its ideals. People become rigidly bitter and less humane to each other.

     What is the radius of damage? Its a psychological weapon to deafen and destroy human senses, eyesight, hearing, breathing. Bombs that have a specific function to hit the weakest most fragile senses of a human being is something we do not even see in the wild animal kingdom. No other species except mankind commits murder on its own species. We are merely 50,000 years on earth, blip of time to other forms of life here longer and well adapted to nature's changes and we are 7.5 billion who cannot adapt to nature's changes at all for lack of conscious planning. Humanity has become desensitized to itself, creatures with soulless eyes in a soulless world of destruction.

  29. The MOAB — Massive Ordinance Air Blast — struck an Islamic State tunnel complex, killing an estimated 600 to 800 ISIS fighters- Fox news

  30. The MOAB was dropped in Afghanistan to DISTRACT from MANAFORT getting popped as a "foreign agent". This bomb ain't THAT big a DEAL. It's novel yes, but it's basically a "anti-personnel/equipment/soft facilities" munition, but it's still only a "Conventional munition". They just figure the average "rank-and-file dipstick" will get a patriotic "pants bulge" over the concept. Anybody who's worked aircraft/munitions/flightline ops will tell you it's powerful, but there are allot more powerful bombs in terms of devastation. Bunker busters for example outstrip this one easily. But only military knows that.

  31. Who are the President's base? The nationalists? They'd be against the bombing as they're isolationists right? They don't want the US messing around in other countries. His base certainly isn't fiscal conservatives, considering he spends money like it's going out of style. His base shouldn't be the Christian Right, considering his philandering… What sort of people are seriously the President's "base" of supporters?

  32. I really wish Morning Joe would stop sending mixed messages abt dtrump i get U like that whole tough guy thing w the bombs but let's not forget he's in cahoots w russia he's helping putin TAKE DOWN THE UNITED STATES he's a TRAITOR your suppose to condemn that behavior NOT make him seem NORMAL when he's bombing all over the place as a DISTRACTION not bc he cares abt us i thought U knew that Joe you ACT like U know everything else plz stop get back on track dtrump is NOT a rock star or a HERO so stop building him up to be the KIDS are watching!!!!

  33. What scares me is , Trump gave power to his generals to decide, take action, drop bombs, without getting permission from anyone in Washington. 😱😱😱

  34. America sitting with their pants down around it's ankles watching the bomb fall from the sky, so much self love making.

  35. ..the anchorwoman is rude….
    Btw, there are no ISIS in Afghanistan but only Talibans!
    But Trump only promise to target ISIS….!
    Oop! ….but now l bomb Talibans….
    Let's change it to ISIS then, not to loose face.
    Anyway l am for Trump who drop MOAB there…

  36. I imagine that the people that live in Afghanistan are wondering why their Government doesn't do anything to protect them from the United States. Alaska is not very populated, but I still think that we would be angry if someone bombed them.

  37. Wow!! I got so many toys, so shinny. They'd look better golden, anyways they look new, never used before oooh! I like it. I wonder what this can do. Wow! no, this one better, yeah! I wanna use it so badly. Let's see what this can do. They're gonna look like ants flying all around. A yuuuge explosion, whooo!!! Now people will treat me right, you know, with a lot of respect. It's gonna be great, fantastic and… great, yeah. Can I put my name on this one?

  38. Killing Muslims was OK under Obama, but under Trump I am outraged Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrghhhhh. Liberals are so anti-Trump that I think they will actually take side of ISIS over Trump.

  39. All we are doing is spending billions just to blowup a few peons * maybe *, after all we have to take the USG word for it.

  40. Barnes-Wallis, a Brit designed the largest non-conventional weapon ever made. It was dropped on Germany by the RAF during WW2.

  41. IT'S SIMPLE ,, YOU ARE TERRORISTS ,,, BUT YOU DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT ALL THE WORLD KNOWS YOU LESS YOU JAJAJA STUPID YANQUIS

  42. The government of America is built on hatred, racism, greed, extortion, infidelity, incitement, selfishness, lies, theft, murder, threats, and the most war crimes country in the present time. My words have no relation to any particular destination. It is the only country that has used the nuclear bomb and all the internationally prohibited weapons under the title of fighting terrorism. In fact, the US government is itself the terrorism that we see in television and elsewhere.

  43. They dropped these daisy cutter bombs out of the back of C17's on tora bora in 2001 trying to flush out bin Laden in Afghanistan

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